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Haegan2005

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Meh.

It does not take away from the stories nor the quality of the world. If you have saved the scenes a redo should be fairly easy. I have no issues with her personality, nor really with the visuals of the character. I have not seen any 'fan service' shots nor anything that portrays her negatively. She is a hero, doing a heroes work. And has been portrayed as such.

If you are catching flack for.. Um. large assets? Then you need to make a choice as to what you want to do going forward. Ultimately, the choices are in your hand for this.

21st Feb 2019, 7:55 PM

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This comic doesn’t get nearly enough attention for me to be recieving any flak.

I’m just thinking out loud and padding this issue out.

I’m not going to re-render all of the old scenes. That would take forever.

I’m considering three options:

1) Do nothing.
2) Seek an in-universe solution.
3) Just change the character design.

At least for the next issue I’m going with option 1, as I’ve already rendered a bunch of scenes.

The next issue starts on Monday, February 25. Unlike this issue, the release schedule will be a little slower and I’ll be posting two pages a week, instead of one a day.

Stay tuned and thanks for reading!

21st Feb 2019, 10:58 PM

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Women in comics should be diverse. Men, too.


Hereby, I cast a vote for option 1. Well, she could go to let her boobs surgically made smaller, I heard that some women do that, for some reasons, medical ones included, so option 2 wouldn't be a huge stretch. Option 3 would require to re-do all the previous pages. Then it's hardly an option, eh? But it would be the only option to the loss of "apparent seriousness" back, Option 2 wouldn't help with that.

But even though option 2 would be possible, I'd vote against it, for two reasons:
- She has a certain personality and the boobage may well have contributed to that, the experiences she had because of her body, good and bad ones - and I bet the comic creator might (subconsciously) taken this "background" into account. So, change her body and don't change her personality: You still have someone different.
- You can use it as a plot device. Sure, it created an additional difficulty, but as much as you are getting better with creating the images, you will also get better at writing, so even if it is now an annoyance, it may well become a feature later on.

(You read Grrl Power, too? IMHO Dave Barrak made a better decision to start with Sydney being below-averagely-developed and introducing other human female shapes later on. Made it much easier for him, methinks. But still, IMNSHO, now after you made this mistake, you should make use of it.)

10th Mar 2019, 7:21 PM

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Luckily, where I am story-wise right now I don't really have to make a decision on this any time soon.

I'm not opposed to just altering Shield's design. Comics are regularly tweaking their characters' appearances. I've made this option a little harder for myself by making the problem a plot point of Issue #0.2. But some minor tweaking isn't impossible.

I'm not re-doing any renders. If I decide to change Shield's appearance, all of the earlier stuff will stay as is, warts and all. (Frankly, I think the process is more interesting than the comic sometimes, and that includes recognizing and commenting on mistakes.)

I've set up a world where people have crazy powers, so seeking an in-universe solution might be less daunting than it seems.

16th Mar 2019, 5:31 PM

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> Comics are regularly tweaking their characters' appearances.

Yes, that happens. But believe me, every single time I loathed it, be it "a small change" like Mr. Fantastic / Reed Richards suddenly looked like a slim version of J.J.Jameson or something bigger like the grey Hulk. Consistency, Man!

There is one change of a web-comic I'm still kinda miffed about: Twilight Lady by Blake JK Chen. The first few chapters were done by the author himself using Poser, the last two chapters were drawn by a comic artist.

Usually I’m much more into drawn comics than poser generated ones, but this one was done in a great way, with post processing to overcome poser deficiencies and the result fit to the dark theme extremely well – so the poser style “sunk in” to me. (And that even though I started reading with “The Indwellers” and then jumped back to the very beginning.) In a case like this I would expect the art to continue in a way that is as close as possible to how it was before and as far as I can tell now from the fresh impression of the latest two pages, the new artists seemed to be well capable of that.
But the sinister darkness was gone and never came back.

16th Mar 2019, 10:57 PM

Mark

Mark Mark

I don't see any issues with Shield's body type being the way it is. She's the type of woman that I latch onto visually because she looks unique compared to what we're normally inundated with. She stands out from all the rest. This woman is plus-sized and looks good with it! I wish I could meet someone like her in real life. Believe me when I say this; Stick to you're guns with her current look and don't let others detract you. She's gorgeous.

22nd Jan 2020, 1:22 PM

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Clearly, based on how I'm marketing this comic right now I've decided not only to stick with Shield's design, but to place her front and centre in my advertising.

The math is pretty simple. Large breasts = clicks. Large breasts = readers.

Is this a good thing? No.

Does this perpetuate the negative way women are depicted in comics? Yes.

Should I feel bad about my decision. Absolutely.

22nd Jan 2020, 3:49 PM

CrowMagnon

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If I may, I'd just like to express a few things about this.

First off, I'm one of the fish who bit on the clickbait, to torture a metaphor. I'll admit that it's pretty easy to get a moment of my attention with an attractive, exceptionally-endowed woman, but that alone will only get a moment of curiosity. It doesn't hold that attention without something under the surface. I got through the first mini-issue and saw the initial set-up, but wasn't entirely sold yet.

It was the second, featuring Shield, which really grabbed me. Attractive women draw attention, yes. But what hooked me in was how she had to deal with it. She's powerful, strong-willed, and exaggeratedly beautiful, so she SHOULD be on top of the world. But it's because of that beauty, especially combined with being part of a marginalized group, that the online a-holes felt entitled to do and say as they pleased. It felt painful, but real. Especially in the last couple of pages when, for all her power and projected strength, she couldn't stop the impotent redpills from having the last laugh. Ow...

tl;dr I think that her figure actually serves a narrative purpose. Like her abilities, it's something that sets her apart from the crowd and makes her a target, even though it's not something she should be punished for.

4th Feb 2020, 8:49 PM

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Thanks for clicking! And double thanks for actually reading the comic.

Getting any kind of click is a challenge.

There are bajillions of webcomics out there, more than anyone could ever read in a lifetime.

I’ve been running ads for this comic since September 2019. I’ve tried a bunch of different ad variations and the only ones that get any clicks are the ones with Shield and a valley of cleavage.

Not only do the Shield-focused ads get more clicks, but the people that click on those ads also read more pages.

Way back on page 2 of Mini Issue 0.1 there’s a discussion with a reader in the comment section about how much they were turned off by Shield’s figure.

In that discussion, I argue that I went with a more voluptuous look for Shield because I saw that webcomics with well-endowed females get the most attention.

My ad analytics basically prove that hypothesis. As I said above, large breasts = clicks and readers.

Is this a good thing? No.

I’m perpetuating the comic industry’s negative depiction of women and their bodies because it’s what’s popular. That’s not right.

Mini Issue 0.2, the story you cited, where Shield gets harassed by the committee to re-elect Donald Trump, is an honest attempt to address my problematic design decision and weave that into the story.

I’ve said I’m not going to change her design, and I’m sticking with that decision.

If I want to address this (and I still intend to), my only option now is to write stories that do better by her as a character.

5th Feb 2020, 9:58 PM

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