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Thoughts on the tactical display reveal? Is it satisfying? Out of left field?
Let me know in the comments.
(Also, still curious if anyone has found this comic via an ad on another web comic.)
8th Jul 2021, 6:57 AM
Whew!! Mentally torturing himself by keeping himself getting reminded what he did.
I didn't expect that but I find the explanation satisfying.
Ohh, that changes a few things in hindsight. The conversation between Meteor and Simon Molina where Simon assured him that he is the right one to lead the team has a slightly different angle now.
But how come that Derringer could get tricked by that? He knew that Meteor broke free from his programming, I expected the new programming to override Meteor's own will by brute force.
And now: SHIELDS UP! I hope Shield's force field can engulf the whole team, not only herself.
8th Jul 2021, 9:53 PM
>>But how come that Derringer could get tricked by that? He knew that Meteor broke free from his programming, I expected the new programming to override Meteor's own will by brute force.
I don’t think he was tricked. On page 45, Derringer says he’s “not entirely certain” how Meteor “regained full control.” He specifies that Meteor “bypassed the command pathways,” noting that it was impressive work.
Derringer then goes on to say that he’s getting rid of all of that and putting in “new stronger controls.”
More evidence that Derringer doesn’t quite know what happened comes on page 36, when he’s trying to pump Meteor for information on how he broke free.
So, what do we know:
- Meteor broke free of Derringer’s programming when he was ordered to kill unarmed civilians.
- This broke him free, but the programming still lingered.
- With Simon Molina’s help, he was able to bypass additional pathways, but it doesn’t seem like they were able to remove the programming entirely.
- It’s during this process that they likely discovered that Meteor’s tactical view had become associated with this triggering event, and could act as a bulwark against Derringer’s programming. This is likely why they opted to leave it on.
- Derringer doesn’t know this. He seems to think this is purely a programming problem. He knows the tactical display isn’t functioning properly, but doesn’t know it was deliberate.
Also, FYI, I have more detailed answers about most, if not all of this. I’m not trying to be cagey, but there are some things I don’t want to delve too deep into (at least not yet). I also don’t want long complex explanations bogging down the story.
9th Jul 2021, 11:44 AM
Wow! Thank you very much!!!
- The first two points were clear, I got them as you described.
- Point 3 was a bit fuzzy, I was not aware of how much help Simon provided, but it was clear that they couldn't remove all of the programming and(/or?) free Meteor completely from it, thus Meteor's concerns about it coming back. During that conversation with Simon I thought that Meteor was concerned about some technical problem, maybe an "override" command or something like that, while Simon was sure like a rock of Meteor's morality and humanity, because that alone caused him to break free and refuse a direct command.
- Point 4 was unknown to me. Now, with Meteor's explanation, my "view" shifted and together with this point, it shifted a bit more and things make (more) sense in another way than I thought.
- I understood point 5 as you described it here. But, being a programmer (who makes mistakes) myself, I wondered how come that Derringer's "new stronger controls" wouldn't do the trick, I thought he had a clear plan that would work even in the case that he wouldn't find the cause for Meteor's breaking-free. Only now I realize that Derringer was doing a trial & error approach, without safety measures against failure - a bold move! But it fits to all we know about his personality.
>> Also, FYI, I have more detailed answers about most, if not all of this.
Heh, of course.
>> I’m not trying to be cagey, but there are some things I don’t want to delve too deep into (at least not yet). I also don’t want long complex explanations bogging down the story.
Good decision, I'd say!
Only if you want to fully satisfy a reader like me... :P
For real, I suspect that most readers just enjoy the show without thinking too much about certain details (I'm doing that on many other comics, too, but this comic (and its creator) kinda "invited" me to think about it, also you asked what readers think about certain things), a few readers may wonder about some details but deem it not important enough to speak up about it. Or the others just got it while I didn't, idk. So - apparently it's only me who didn't fully get it. Joe Fonebone did. For me it wasn't obvious.
That said: Of course you know every detail about the story/stories you want to tell and you know how much detail one needs to know to make the whole thing work - but the readers usually don't. It's not always necessary, but if you want the readers to arrive at the same understanding that you have, you need to explain things. If not, you can leave the readers with their own ideas about your story. (But from all I observed, from the comic and your comments, I rather suspect that you'd like it better if the readers understand your stories the same way you do :-) )
9th Jul 2021, 7:51 PM
>>- Point 4 was unknown to me. Now, with Meteor's explanation, my "view" shifted and together with this point, it shifted a bit more and things make (more) sense in another way than I thought.
I say “likely,” as we’re not given precise details.
>>But, being a programmer (who makes mistakes) myself, I wondered how come that Derringer's "new stronger controls" wouldn't do the trick, I thought he had a clear plan that would work even in the case that he wouldn't find the cause for Meteor's breaking-free. Only now I realize that Derringer was doing a trial & error approach, without safety measures against failure - a bold move! But it fits to all we know about his personality.
It’s a bit of a case of tunnel vision. He was so fixated on what he thought the problem/solution was, that he didn’t even conceive of this vulnerability.
In his defence, programming a cyborg can’t be easy.
This was hard to write. It took a lot of editing to balance just how much backstory I could provide without giving certain things away.
That said, I’m certainly not an expert, and I’m always looking for thoughts on how I can improve my craft.
I hope that even without this discussion, that this revelation was still narratively satisfying and coherent.
This process has also really hammered home that what’s clear to me, isn’t for everyone else. I knew this going in, but I need to redouble my efforts to address this in future issues 🤞.
>> I rather suspect that you'd like it better if the readers understand your stories the same way you do :-)
To a point, yes, that’s the preference. Of course, it’s also great when readers such as yourself come up with an interpretation that I didn’t consider. (As long as it doesn’t break everything.) There have been a few times where you’ve made a comment that’s prompted an “oh, shit” moment where I’ve had to go back and confirm that I haven’t fucked myself with some narrative choice or mistake. ;)
10th Jul 2021, 8:28 AM
I found it through an ad on the comic sidebar @ merceneiress.com
9th Jul 2021, 2:32 AM
Great. Thanks for letting me know 👍
9th Jul 2021, 5:37 AM
Woohoo!!! They made it!!! He didn't go murderdeathkill on them!!!
Uh oh! He fell into the supervillain's trap of oversharing. As a reader I'm happy to hear about the tactical display issue, but he didn't need to share that with Evil Mc. Beardy. I won't be too sad to see him getting kicked in the nuts. Just sayin...
Awesome work as usual ... dude? Um....what are your pronouns?
8th Jul 2021, 9:38 AM
>>Woohoo!!! They made it!!! He didn't go murderdeathkill on them!!!
I think that would be the end of this comic if he did.
>>Uh oh! He fell into the supervillain's trap of oversharing.
I have to convey it to the reader somehow though, right? It would be mighty confusing if Meteor was just all better again with no explanation.
>>Awesome work as usual ... dude? Um....what are your pronouns?
8th Jul 2021, 10:42 AM
It's funny how some folks say "Impossible!" right after the thing they thought was impossible... just clearly happened.
8th Jul 2021, 7:19 PM
Derringer seems like the kind of guy that has trouble accepting things that don't fit his carefully constructed worldview. Even if they're smacking him in the face.
8th Jul 2021, 8:28 PM
It was a mistake, for Meteor to reveal the method by which he defeated Derringer's programing! Never tell a thief how you caught him, as the Police know well.
Nevertheless, it was obviously how he held on to his Humanity. As a result, I do believe the the Feces is about to Strike the Rotary Impeller! And Derringer is going to need a long Hot Shower! And a Doctor, should he be so lucky to survive.
8th Jul 2021, 9:12 PM
You're probably right. He should have kept that little secret to himself.
It wouldn't make for a very satisfying narrative though ;)
8th Jul 2021, 9:42 PM
P.S. I found this comic via an ad on the Cummoner.
8th Jul 2021, 9:18 PM
That’s odd. I’ve never purchased an ad on that comic.
8th Jul 2021, 9:32 PM
(Merceneiress is much, much "nearer" to this, being a 3D sci-fi story, but I can recommend The Cummoner, too, if you can deal with a fantasy world, the art style and the fact that it is a (somewhat less serious) porn comic. If the porn part would be a problem, try A Quartz Bead of the same author.)
9th Jul 2021, 8:12 PM
I was looking through some of the comics they listed as recommended, and it led to one with an ad for UnitM. I am sorry that I don't recall the specific comic.
9th Jul 2021, 11:03 PM
No worries. Thanks for letting me know. Still helpful to know that the ads are working 👍
10th Jul 2021, 6:11 AM
It's satisfying to me!
I'm fairly certain I found this from an ad on another comic, but it was so long ago I couldn't tell you when/where.
9th Jul 2021, 3:37 PM
Thanks! That’s still useful to know.
9th Jul 2021, 3:52 PM
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